Talk:High Dragunfire

if this has an ammonomicon entry now, where exactly is it located --173.29.19.134 18:26, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Alright so research was done about the high dragunfire.

So research was done to find the real damage output of the high dragunfire as I did not feel as if it really had the stats that this wiki page stated. Research was done using this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPvOd0rtOHs The bullet king has 950 health. It took exactly 246 bullets from the high dragunfire to defeat the bullet king (not including the 6 bullets that I counted that missed/were shot after the bullet king was defeated) In this case each bullet would do approximately 3.86 damage. At about 4 minutes and 21 seconds in, I slowed the video down to 25% speed. In a second, I counted 18 bullets shot.This has been timed many times to get the exact amount of every stat correct. so this would be 69 dps. As far as I know, I have NOT seen the gungeon go into decimals. The only reason I am saying the gungeon rounds up is because of the scouter. The scouter only shows whole numbers. If my beliefs are true instead of being 69 dps, the high dragunfires dps will be 72. This gun DOES NOT pass boss damage cap.

Must examples be provided? fightsabre turbo gun (does not take reload into account) blunderbuss Should this be enough or must I provide more?

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dragon824979 (talk • contribs • logs • block log).

Please read what this actually says before deleting it again

The majority, if not all, of the guns take reload time into account when calculating DPS.

The formula they use goes like this: (BulletDMG x MagSize) / (((FireRate x (MagSize - 1)) + ReloadTime) = DPS

Fightsabre's DPS:

(6 x 25) / (((0.15 x(25 - 1))+ 1.5) = 29 DPS, which is what's listed on its page

Turbo-Gun's DPS (using minimum charge as an example):

(8.4 x 6) / ((0.1 x(6 - 1))+ 1) = 33.6 DPS, which is what's listed on its page

Blunderbuss didn't even have its charge time listed, which is also crucial for calculating DPS, but EVEN THEN it took reload time into account:

(30 x 4) / ((0.5 x(4 - 1)+ 1.2) = 44.4 which is what was listed on its page.

I updated its page to now incorporate reload times into the equation, so now the DPS calculation looks like this:

(30 x 4) / (((0.5 + 0.3)x(4 - 1)+ 1.2) = 33.3 DPS, which is what's currently listed on its page.

TL;DR: All of these guns use reload times in their DPS calculation.

Applying this formula to High Dragunfire, we get:

(5 x 30) / ((0.0666666 x(30 - 1))+ 1.6) = 42.5 DPS, which is High Dragunfire's CORRECT DPS.

PLEASE discuss this with me further on Discord, I can share the sources to all of my stats there.

Enter the Gungeon Discord link: https://discord.gg/K34rSeXJJt —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bulbaquaza (talk • contribs • logs • block log).

Dragon824979, instead of constantly reverting the change over and over, how about discuss here in a civil manner and explain why you think it is 69.4 dps. Bulbaquaza already replied to your original comment above and provided in-depth information. Please start commenting below from here, use four tildes (~~~~) to sign your signature so we can all stay on track with the discussion. :) Thank you. Surafbrov (talk) 17:11, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

That dragon guy is right though. Made sure myself to do my own testing and it was pretty accurate. Bulbaquaza, stop being so persistent when you know you are wrong